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Bug #13289

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biological stock being recognized as a marine resource

Added by Marina Mendes about 6 years ago. Updated over 5 years ago.

Status:
Rejected
Priority:
Normal
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Start date:
Feb 06, 2019
Due date:
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100%

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Hi Merul

The record https://bluebridge.d4science.org/group/grsf_admin/data-catalogue?path=/dataset/15967106-760d-3bf8-961e-504f6250547f is recognized as a marine resource in iMarine but in Fishsource it is considered as a biological stock https://www.fishsource.org/stock_page/2026.

Could you please check if it is properly being sent as a stock?
If there is no issue from there, please assign to Yannis.

Thanks
MArina


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updated_GRSF_stock_URLs.txt (10.2 KB) updated_GRSF_stock_URLs.txt Yannis Marketakis, Feb 13, 2019 04:21 PM
Query Results.csv (36.9 KB) Query Results.csv Merul Patel, Apr 09, 2019 04:47 PM
Query Results- with GRSF information.xls (118 KB) Query Results- with GRSF information.xls Yannis Marketakis, Apr 11, 2019 10:33 AM

Related issues

Related to StocksAndFisheriesKB - Bug #13334: FS type of record harvesting logicClosedYannis MarketakisFeb 14, 2019

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Actions #1

Updated by Merul Patel about 6 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Merul Patel to Yannis Marketakis

FishSource returns this stock as a Stock. Yannis please could you look into this. Extract from API below:

{
"id": 2026,
"name": "Southern blue whiting - SW Atlantic",
"type": "Stock",
"children": [],
"species":
{
"fao_name": "Southern blue whiting",
"order": "Gadiformes",
"family": "Gadidae",
"genus": "Micromesistius",
"specific_descriptor": "australis",
"code_3a": "POS"
},
"fishing_areas": [
{
"name": "FAO 41.2.3",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 41.3.1",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 41.3.2",
"type": "FAO"
}],
"exploiting_fisheries": [4735, 4736],
"management_units": [
{
"id": 2432,
"name": "Argentina",
"organizations": [
{
"id": 3296,
"name": "Consejo Federal Pesquero",
"acronym": "CFP",
"country": "ARG"
}]
},
{
"id": 2433,
"name": "Falkland Islands (Malvinas)",
"organizations": [
{
"id": 5625,
"name": "Falkland Islands Fisheries Department",
"acronym": "FIFD",
"country": null
}]
}],
"state_of_marine_resource": [
{
"text": "An initial recovery in biomass was noted in the most recent stock assessment (2010) but the spawning stock is estimated to be around 30% of the virgin biomass, below the limit reference point. A reduction in catch per unit effort (CPUE) and fishing mortality were also observed (Giussi & Wöhler, 2010a).TrendsLast updated on 02 Dec 2011 Past trends in spawning biomass show a steep decrease from a level of over one million tonnes in the early 1990s to just over 400,000 tonnes in 2004, followed by a more gradual decrease which reached a minimum of 360,000 tonnes in 2006. Catch rates have been steadily decreasing since 1990, but fishing mortality and exploitation rates have remained quite stable over the years, only recently indicating a slight decrease (Giussi & Wöhler, 2010a).",
"latest_citation_date": null,
"stock_or_assessment_unit_id": "2026"
}],
"scientific_advice": [
{
"text": "Long-term projections under different management scenarios carried out by INIDEP scientists resulted in Argentinean catch options for 2010 ranging from 24,000 to 61,000 tonnes. The advised catch limit of 35,900 tonnes aimed to potentiate the recovery in abundance that appeared to have initiated in the preceding years. This catch strategy was expected to maintain the spawning biomass observed in 2009 and also maintain recent catch levels (Giussi & Wöhler, 2010a).\nThe South Atlantic Fisheries Commission previously provided advice on the stock. At present, the Falklands Fisheries Department has advised that the spawning season closure be maintained (Falkland Islands Government, 2011).Reference PointsLast updated on 02 Dec 2011 A limit reference point of 500,000 tonnes for spawning biomass was defined in the most recent assessment, based on the level needed to produce recruitment above recent averages (Giussi & Wöhler, 2010a). This was previously estimated as 600,000 tonnes (Giussi et al., 2007). No management reference points are known.",
"latest_citation_date": null,
"stock_or_assessment_unit_id": "2026"
}],
"data_owners": [
{
"id": 3297,
"name": "National Fishery Research and Development Institute (Argentina)",
"country": "ARG"
}],
"datafile":
{
"id": 2849,
"link": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/fs4.fishsource.org/uploads/data_file/file/2849/Southern_blue_whiting-SW_Atlantic_Fev2012_20180719040743.xlsm",
"date": "2016-11-08"
},
"source_of_information": "https://www.fishsource.org/stock_page/2026",
"map_infos": ["https://s3.amazonaws.com/fs4.fishsource.org/uploads/map/kml_path/407/Southern_blue_whiting_-_SW_Atlantic.kml"]
}

Actions #3

Updated by Yannis Marketakis about 6 years ago

  • Status changed from New to In Progress

The type of a stock record is assigned after they are harvested and transformed. Whenever a stock assessment is conducted then, the record is identified as an assessment unit.

Under this light, I see that there are many stock records that should be assessment units in GRSF_Admin VRE. I will update them accordingly.

Actions #4

Updated by Yannis Marketakis about 6 years ago

Changed the type of 130 records to Assessment Unit.
The URLs of the records that have been updated is attached.

Actions #5

Updated by Susana Segurado about 6 years ago

  • Status changed from Closed to Feedback
  • Assignee changed from Yannis Marketakis to Aureliano Gentile

We have found another record that is an assessment unit in FishSource but a marine resource in GRSF: http://data.d4science.org/ctlg/GRSF_Admin/0dcd3d3d-bfa0-32b1-9372-88082d721b54

Aureliano, can you please clarify if it is a similar issue as above, or if this case is different because there are two sources (FIRMS and FishSource)?

Also, we are not understanding why there is no suggested merge between the FIRMS and FS records, but instead they are both identified as sources?

Actions #6

Updated by Susana Segurado about 6 years ago

One more that should be an assessment unit (this time source is just FishSource): http://data.d4science.org/ctlg/GRSF_Admin/04487abe-6b38-3075-939c-b77065381ee7

Actions #7

Updated by Marina Mendes about 6 years ago

  • Related to Bug #13334: FS type of record harvesting logic added
Actions #8

Updated by Marina Mendes about 6 years ago

another example of an AU/stock in FS: https://www.fishsource.org/stock_page/2053 being recognized as a marine resource in GRSF: http://data.d4science.org/ctlg/GRSF_Admin/2263edca-acb4-3fa3-9e03-cee76063cdb8

Actions #9

Updated by Merul Patel about 6 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Aureliano Gentile to Yannis Marketakis

WRT comment 8, the API is definitely returning the root record as an 'AssessmentUnit':

{
"id": 2053,
"name": "South American pilchard - Northern-Central Pacific",
"type": "AssessmentUnit",
"children": [],
"species": {
"fao_name": "South American pilchard",
"order": "Clupeiformes",
"family": "Clupeidae",
"genus": "Sardinops",
"specific_descriptor": "sagax",
"code_3a": "CHP"
},
"fishing_areas": [
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.12",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.13",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.14",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.15",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.22",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.23",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.24",
"type": "FAO"
},
{
"name": "FAO 87.1.25",
"type": "FAO"
}
],
"exploiting_fisheries": [
4790,
4791
],
"management_units": [
{
"id": 2463,
"name": "Ecuador",
"organizations": [
{
"id": 2487,
"name": "National Fisheries Institute of Ecuador",
"acronym": "INP",
"country": "ECU"
}
]
},
{
"id": 2464,
"name": "Peru",
"organizations": [
{
"id": 2486,
"name": "Marine Institute of Peru",
"acronym": "IMARPE",
"country": "PER"
}
]
}
],
"state_of_marine_resource": [
{
"text": "TrendsLast updated on 21 Nov 2016 Catches for Sardinops sagax started to be reported to FAO in 1961 (2 700 t by Peru) but up to 1973 they did not exceeded 100 000 t. Starting that year, there was a fast increase of the catches, which reached a peak of 6 509 301 t in 1985, in correspondence of the dramatic decrease of catches of the Peruvian anchovy due to El Niño phenomenon. Since 1985, the total catch is strongly decreased totalizing 1 503 131 t in 1995, mostly from Peru. Caught with purse seines ("small pelagic purse seining"). The total catch reported for this species to FAO for 1999 was 442 690 t. The countries with the largest catches were Chile (246 045 t) and Peru (187 824 t).",
"latest_citation_date": null,
"stock_or_assessment_unit_id": "2053"
}
],
"scientific_advice": [
{
"text": "No quotas are set in this fishery but authorities has set a minimum landing size and fleet capacity is controlled.Reference PointsLast updated on 21 Nov 2016 Reference points (e.g. Blrp, Ftrp) are not yet estimated or available for this fishery.",
"latest_citation_date": null,
"stock_or_assessment_unit_id": "2053"
}
],
"data_owners": [
{
"id": null,
"name": null,
"country": null
}
],
"datafile": null,
"source_of_information": "https://www.fishsource.org/stock_page/2053",
"map_infos": [
"https://s3.amazonaws.com/fs4.fishsource.org/uploads/map/kml_path/703/American_pilchard_-_Pacific_South_America__Northern-Central_stock_.kml"
]
},

Actions #10

Updated by Marina Mendes about 6 years ago

of the examples we have shared above, all are currently identified correctly as assessment units in bluebridge, except the following, which are still as marine resources but available as Stocks in API

"id": 850,
"name": "Patagonian toothfish - South Georgia",
"type": "Stock",
"children": [],
"species": {
"fao_name": "Patagonian toothfish",
"order": "Percoidei",
"family": "Nototheniidae",
"genus": "dissostichus",
"specific_descriptor": "eleginoides",
"code_3a": "TOP"

"id": 841,
"name": "Patagonian toothfish - Macquarie Island",
"type": "Stock",
"children": [],
"species": {
"fao_name": "Patagonian toothfish",
"order": "Percoidei",
"family": "Nototheniidae",
"genus": "dissostichus",
"specific_descriptor": "eleginoides",
"code_3a": "TOP"

Actions #11

Updated by Yannis Marketakis about 6 years ago

According to the GRSF rules the type of the stock is "Assessment unit", whenever a stock assessment is conducted and "Marine Resource", when there is no stock assessment available.
Perhaps @aureliano.gentile@fao.org can elaborate on this.

Under this light, I see that only http://data.d4science.org/ctlg/GRSF_Admin/0dcd3d3d-bfa0-32b1-9372-88082d721b54 should be changed to Assessment Unit.

Actions #12

Updated by Marina Mendes about 6 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Yannis Marketakis to Aureliano Gentile

Thank you, Yannis.
Both examples shown in note #10 above are Stocks/AssessmentUnits in FishSource, therefore should not be ManagamentUnits in GRSF.
Assigning the ticket to Aureliano.

Marina

Actions #13

Updated by Aureliano Gentile about 6 years ago

Thanks. The practical rule mentioned by Yannis "the type of the stock is "Assessment unit", whenever a stock assessment is conducted and "Marine Resource", when there is no stock assessment available" was made in absence of other indications from the sources. FishSource is today indicating in its service if it is assessment unit or stock (marine resource) (e.g. "type": "AssessmentUnit"), hence you can refer only to that information and assign the GRSF type accordingly.

Actions #14

Updated by Yannis Marketakis about 6 years ago

Aureliano Gentile wrote:

Thanks. The practical rule mentioned by Yannis "the type of the stock is "Assessment unit", whenever a stock assessment is conducted and "Marine Resource", when there is no stock assessment available" was made in absence of other indications from the sources. FishSource is today indicating in its service if it is assessment unit or stock (marine resource) (e.g. "type": "AssessmentUnit"), hence you can refer only to that information and assign the GRSF type accordingly.

The issue here is that because of the rule we had (mentioned above) we ignored the relevant information coming from the sources themselves and defined the type based on the rule after fetching/transforming/ingesting data.
For this reason, if we want to apply a new rule then we have to re-transform and re-ingest records from Fishource (and apparently GRSF ones).
What I see is feasible for the time being is to update the type of particular records (like the ones mentioned in the issue) instead of updating all of them.

Actions #15

Updated by Aureliano Gentile about 6 years ago

Thanks, I understand the problem of updating, but fixing a few of them randomly does not help much. Maybe @merul.patel@sustainablefish.org can provide a list of IDs with all assessment units? Please advice.

Actions #16

Updated by Merul Patel about 6 years ago

I've reviewed #13334, and am attaching a CSV file with the key fields from all FishSource StockOrAssessmentUnit records where the type is 'AssessmentUnit'. The parent_id field will indicate whether the AssessmentUnit is nested, but based on the notes in ticket #13334, this is not actually relevant.

I hope this is what you wanted, but if not, please advise.

Actions #17

Updated by Yannis Marketakis about 6 years ago

Thanks Merul for the list.
Attached you will find the list updated with information from the GRSF KB. More specifically, you will find 2 more columns; one indicating if the records exists in the GRSF KB and has been published in GRSF, and one indicating the type of the record in GRSF.

You'll notice that:

  • There are some records that do not exist in GRSF. This is normal for records created after March 2018 (This is the last time we harvested from FishSource and constructed GRSF from scratch). For the rest of them (e.g. with ids 764, 834, etc.) although they seem to be created earlier than March 2018, they do not exist in the harvesting of that period.
  • There are 51 records that appear as Marine Resources in GRSF KB. If we all agree (@aureliano.gentile@fao.org let me know what you think) we can proceed with their update in GRSF KB (i.e. make them assessment units) and update them in GRSF VREs.
Actions #18

Updated by Marina Mendes about 6 years ago

I know you have already identified the issues technically but my understanding, based in just a small sample, is that Assessment units are correctly captured as assessment units in GRSF, being only stocks incorrectly identified as Marine Resources.

Actions #19

Updated by Susana Segurado over 5 years ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Rejected

Superseded by #13334

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